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Diana Brickell's avatar

Thank you for this review. I graduated HS in 1997, and I was the only person I knew to be out. It was deeply uncomfortable: everyone disapproved, my parents were tight-lipped unhappy, etc, etc.

It’s so clear me that if the adults at the time could have blamed peer pressure and the internet for the existence of their gay, lesbian, and bisexual kids, they would have jumped on that.

I feel so terrible for the maybe-trans kids of these parents. They deserve so much better than parents who assume they know their kids better than the kids know themselves.

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This strikes me as basically phrenology for pride. It's the same old shit about "the gays" with the serial numbers filed off.

The ROGD thing is pretty clearly just social acceptance. It's a "contagion" the same way that gay people living public, natural lives is a contagion. It's the trans equivalent of gay pride. It's the trans equivalent of the civil rights movement. Both things that not-so-coincidentally are back under attack again after what felt like years of real progress.

As there are more trans and non-binary folks out there and as kids see them go through their lives and be accepted and be happy, they are more likely to question the dysmorphia in them head on and bring that exploration out into daylight. It's a pretty simple concept. Sexuality and gender identity aren't things that you consciously choose. But they *are* things you can consiously express.

And I think that in the end this is about two things. Men terrified of the idea that they'll date a girl and find out there's an extra penis involved and that they'll *love* it, and the aesthetics of what they consider to be socially masculine or feminine. Which is horseshit, because if you look back at typical gendered, especially male (because this whole thing is super-obsessed with MtF to a degree that in and of itself should probably be studied) aesthetic going back through the centuries, you find a *lot* of things that we'd normally associate with femininity today being considered manly and masculine. Makeup, nail tint/polish, long hair, wigs, fucking showing off shapely calves, tights/leggings, the list goes on. Aesthetics associated with gender are an intrinsicly fluid thing.

Even Coco Chanel, not exactly associated with masculinity, was obsessed with androgeny. Her entire appraoch to fashion (before becoming a Nazi) was about adapting more and more male elements of fashion into the late 19th and early 20th century feminine fashion, ultimately leaning into androgeny. I don't study it a lot and someone who has may correct me, but from what I can tell, androgeny and gender fluid aesthetics seem like the traditional start of new fashion cycles in society. It's society saying "fuck it" and shuffling the deck of cards a few times to start a new game. The rules break down and new social rules get built up out of the comingled concepts going on.

On another note, there's a behavoral psychologist PhD named Lindsey Osterman who used to co-host Serious Inquiries Only and did several deep dives into trans fearmongering and even into Littman's study that you tear apart here. She does an excellent job of critiquing the methodology and the study itself and the two parter is worth a listen.

https://seriouspod.com/sio314-lisa-littmans-bogus-trans-studies-part-1/

https://seriouspod.com/sio315-lisa-littmans-latest-trans-study-is-garbage/

Dr Osterman doesn't have a big online presence, and she may be burned out from her experience in doing podcasting, but she is one of the best communicators in science literacy that I've encountered and has done quite a bit of dissection of the anti-trans movement and might be able to provide some additional insight if you could contact her.

Great article as always. Looking for the next drop.

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